tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28102666.post3206497460261852048..comments2024-03-14T13:25:20.613-05:00Comments on Boston 1775: Dr. Joseph Warren's Body: the photographs?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28102666.post-80499591999683001892024-02-06T23:54:26.042-05:002024-02-06T23:54:26.042-05:00I live in the shadow of Bunker Hill all my 70 year...I live in the shadow of Bunker Hill all my 70 years and have always been proud of my Towns great History. OLD IRONSIDES also around the corner.. I just finished reading Christian Di Spignas "Founding Martyr" about Dr.Warren. Fabulous read about a true American Hero. I have seen frontal views of Warrens skull and see he was shot below his left eye which excited the rear. The Google search I saw determined that it was close range from a pistol. Dr. Warren was covering for the soldiers retreat from Breeds Hill and was not hiding or shot while retreating. His colorful garb worn with white britches and waistcoat made him a marked man as the British knew him well as the fervent, incendiary Patriot that he was. There are not to many American Heroes one could place above this man.His actions, writings and involvement in every battle or skirmish up until his death reveal his courage, calmness and orations as well as his belief that Liberty and Freedom are more important than life itself..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28102666.post-73036170202013963542020-05-17T21:46:27.884-05:002020-05-17T21:46:27.884-05:00This blog post appeared in 2007. Since then, two n...This blog post appeared in 2007. Since then, two new biographies of Dr. Joseph Warren have been published—Sam Forman’s <i>Dr. Joseph Warren: The Boston Tea Party, Bunker Hill, and the Birth of American Liberty</i> and Christian Di Spigna's <i>Founding Martyr: The Life and Death of Dr. Joseph Warren, the American Revolution's Lost Hero</i>. Both unearthed a lot of new evidence about Warren and his household. J. L. Bellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15405157000473731801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28102666.post-69044354042392966862020-05-17T19:55:55.896-05:002020-05-17T19:55:55.896-05:00The children were with Mercy Scollay and all were ...The children were with Mercy Scollay and all were confirmed to have been at the house by additional research since. The Adams and Warren family were more like one big family, as noted by Perez Morton during his eulogy for Dr. Warren at King's Chapel. Once the news that Warren had fell in battle reached the house, the children and Scollay then fled from the house for safety from the British. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18358538433891745166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28102666.post-80518976153469509992011-09-29T19:21:35.410-05:002011-09-29T19:21:35.410-05:00It is worth adding to this old post a link to the ...It is worth adding to this old post a link to the previously lost photographs referred to in the post: <a href="http://www.derekbeck.com/1775/info/circumstances-of-warrens-death/" rel="nofollow">http://www.derekbeck.com/1775/info/circumstances-of-warrens-death/</a>Derek "A Staunch Whig" Beckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966961365623936407noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28102666.post-49602564069761325052010-10-10T20:05:33.639-05:002010-10-10T20:05:33.639-05:00I discussed the musket ball reportedly taken from ...I discussed the musket ball reportedly taken from Dr. Warren’s body in a couple of postings starting <a href="http://boston1775.blogspot.com/2009/11/stainedwith-heros-blood.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Note also other stories of the Rev. <a href="http://boston1775.blogspot.com/search/label/William%20Montague" rel="nofollow">William Montague</a>.<br /><br />I’m not sure whether Dr. Warren’s <i>skull</i> was ever on display, or just the photographs his medical descendants made of that skull.J. L. Bellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15405157000473731801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28102666.post-3801808895500728132010-10-10T16:02:20.799-05:002010-10-10T16:02:20.799-05:00I have been fascinated by Dr. Joseph Warren for a ...I have been fascinated by Dr. Joseph Warren for a long time -- in fact wrote a work of biographical fiction on him entitled Liberty's Martyr. When I first visited Forest Hills Cemetery I inquired at the office if their records indicated Warren's skull was with the remains -- I did explain how the skull was reportedly on display in Boston at one time. A woman looked up the record of the grave and stated, 'the family does not want this information shared.' I was surprised! Perhaps she was joking -- perhaps not. Joseph Warren was very involved with Freemasonry, holding the title of 'Grand Master of North America'. It is said that one of the rituals in Freemasonry involves drinking wine from a skull. What better skull -- and Warren would certainly approve. Dr. Warren was also adamant about teaching anatomy to his students. Again, seems he would approve his skull being used in such a teaching environment. In the earliest editions of Esther Forbes' Paul Revere and the World He Lived In, there is a photo of 'Warren's skull'. A hole is clearly seen in the front cheek of the skull -- left side as I recall. A musket ball -- with cartridge paper still attached and a blood stain thereon is at the New England Geneological Society -- it has been there for well over a century and is documented to have been taken from Warren's body on Breed's Hill.Janethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00527049741156565972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28102666.post-48626515365171620302010-01-25T16:14:16.282-05:002010-01-25T16:14:16.282-05:00John Cary’s biography Joseph Warren is a good star...John Cary’s biography <i>Joseph Warren</i> is a good starting-point if you can find it in a library. It sometimes attributes to the doctor what were group efforts, but it’s solidly researched. <br /><br />Rhoda Truax’s <i>The Doctor Warrens of Boston</i> also looks at the doctor’s brother John and his descendants, who were very influential in Boston medicine.J. L. Bellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15405157000473731801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28102666.post-46510789916279774532010-01-25T16:04:41.916-05:002010-01-25T16:04:41.916-05:00Hello all,
Dr/General Joseph Warren is my Great...Hello all, <br /><br />Dr/General Joseph Warren is my Great, Great, Great Grandfather.... And I will be making a trip to see his grave... I would like to know as much about him.. and his ancestors.. as I can, and am in the process of studying his history... Any info would be appreciated.. as far as research resources.. etc.. Thanks ! <br />Joseph V. Huegel<br />mannnthe@yahoo.comJoseph Huegelhttp://ny-nc.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28102666.post-6650573768560810452010-01-09T23:58:56.802-05:002010-01-09T23:58:56.802-05:00Thank you, J.L. Bell! I've visited Dr. Warren...Thank you, J.L. Bell! I've visited Dr. Warren's grave in Forest Hills (and it was sadly neglected), but there's not much to be learned there.Danelle@gatcombe.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28102666.post-646579607654778722010-01-08T20:22:54.832-05:002010-01-08T20:22:54.832-05:00Urns come in different sizes, it appears. Adding a...Urns come in different sizes, it appears. Adding a bit to the mystery here is that a Masonic source speaks of Warren’s “precious ashes” even though his relatives here describe bones decayed because of moisture. But I haven’t tried to visit the Warren tomb to find out!J. L. Bellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15405157000473731801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28102666.post-38394002844015167372010-01-08T13:15:05.286-05:002010-01-08T13:15:05.286-05:00I've long been an admirer of Dr. Joseph Warren...I've long been an admirer of Dr. Joseph Warren, and have also pondered this question. But here's another one: What sort of "urn" were his remains interred in? When I think of an urn, I think of something fairly small-ish -- certainly not big enough to contain the many bones of a skeleton. So, how did the get the bones to fit into such a smallish vessel?Danelle@gatcombe.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28102666.post-53236320097222003332008-08-01T18:23:00.000-05:002008-08-01T18:23:00.000-05:00The ways of Wikipedia are strange, but it’s clear ...The ways of Wikipedia are strange, but it’s clear that the Warren children were <I>not</I> with Abigail Adams during the Bunker Hill battle. <BR/><BR/>John Quincy Adams wrote about watching that battle with his mother from a Braintree hill, hearing that Dr. Warren had died there, and recalling how the doctor had treated one of his injuries; if Johnny had been with the Warren children at the time, he would certainly have said so.<BR/><BR/>According to John Cary’s biography of Warren, he had put his children in the care of a young woman named Mercy Scollay. Cary also suggests that Warren and Scollay would have married if he hadn’t been killed. Here’s a <A HREF="http://www.masshist.org/objects/2006june.cfm" REL="nofollow">letter</A> about the children’s education in 1777. <BR/><BR/>As for Wikipedia, its ways can be strange.J. L. Bellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15405157000473731801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28102666.post-37388457533283969122008-08-01T05:32:00.000-05:002008-08-01T05:32:00.000-05:00hello, I had a question about something I had read...hello, I had a question about something I had read in wikipedia concerning the day that Dr. Joseph had died and the whereabouts of his 4 children. On 3 different ocassions, wikipedia said that the children were with Abigail Adams and had witnessed the battle from Penn's Hill with her. I am thinking this is wrong, as A.A. writes to John Adams, she never mentions the children when she does mention Dr. Warren and his death.<BR/>Does anyone know why wikipedia thinks his children were with AA?<BR/>Thanks<BR/>AbigailAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28102666.post-14785460088262017332008-06-12T14:52:00.000-05:002008-06-12T14:52:00.000-05:00I believe there are photos of Warren's skull at th...I believe there are photos of Warren's skull at the Countway Library of Medicine/ Harvard Medical School. These may not be the original photos, but I believe they do have copies. The Warren Anatomical Museum located at the library is named for Joseph Warren's descendant, also a physician.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28102666.post-5087589380748915122008-06-09T23:51:00.000-05:002008-06-09T23:51:00.000-05:00Does anyone know the whereabouts of these photos, ...Does anyone know the whereabouts of these photos, or the reproductions that were published?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15311617798254047550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28102666.post-86662766769043730222008-01-14T20:31:00.000-05:002008-01-14T20:31:00.000-05:00It’s a couple of months later, and Brian Self has ...It’s a couple of months later, and Brian Self has written back to say that <I>Handbook for Dental Identification: Techniques in Forensic Dentistry</I> by Dr. Lester L. and Phyllis Luntz (Philadelphia: Lippincott, 1973) reproduces photos of Dr. Warren’s skull early in the book.J. L. Bellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15405157000473731801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28102666.post-86337052180388870252007-11-25T22:37:00.000-05:002007-11-25T22:37:00.000-05:00Thanks for the word from Old South!Thanks for the word from Old South!J. L. Bellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15405157000473731801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28102666.post-33177609394644010142007-11-21T16:07:00.000-05:002007-11-21T16:07:00.000-05:00I can speak on behalf of Old South Meeting House o...I can speak on behalf of Old South Meeting House on this topic as the skull controversy has long been a macabre interest of mine. In looking at our collections records, it appears Old South had more of a collage of images of Joseph Warren's skull, not the original prints. The images are apparently no longer in our collection and if they were still around in the 1970's, they were probably deaccessioned at that point.mleblanchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03274599938854557882noreply@blogger.com